It was the wrong audience, really. It’s reddit reacting to a comic based in ideology more fit for tumblr. That said, I do believe that a story with a philosophical core is far more persuasive than a straight essay on morals, and that seems to be the core of the problem.
Don’t let the internet get to you. It’s a big faceless mob that hates everyone.
Also I recommend taking this down, purely on the basis that this is an extremely personal, emotional piece that shows you as a very fragile human. Any comments on this (including this one) are going to hurt.
People didn’t like a comic you made. They didn’t like it because you were pandering to the SJW insane ideology wherein all white people are evil and any form of minority must be given $50,000 and a puppy for their glorious act of being a minority, and anyone who disagrees is satan. Griping about people being “racist” when they clearly fucking aren’t, and turning a perfectly good discussion about the nature of morality into “herp a derp if you disagree with person X then you’re a racist” and jerking off tumblr, then people are going to get pissed off.
If you’re looking for unconditional support, go join the Neo-Nazi tumblrinas. They’ll give it to you. You can draw something that looks like a shitstain, and as long as it continues to promote the idea that being offended is better than being right, and that calling people racist is an acceptable way of meting out social power, people will break their spines bending over backwards to accommodate you.
If you want actual opinions- if you want your audience to give a shit- if you want people to be constructive and for both you and your art to grow– the criticism is a necessity. If someone says something that fucks you over, the solution isn’t to spiral overboard and lose your mind over it– analyse it, either take it on board or tell them to fuck off, and then move on with the lessons learned. Comics like this come dangerously close to the tumblrina ideology of “racists are the devil, you’re all racists and I’m perfect, and if you disagree with me or say something I don’t like, it’s an evil personal attack on me and I’m so hardly done by”
Dude.
You make great comics. If you’re going to keep making them, it needs to be because it would be far harder for you to stop than to keep weathering the storm of furious internet bullshit and art world bullshit and human bullshit. ‘Cause otherwise all the hate will eventually win.
@ imtrappedinabox and Dude:
Thanks for the comments, guys. I’m ok. I started this comic as soon as I finished the previous and before anyone saw it. It’s more about being unable to live up to my own standards than any reaction from readers (although I’ll jump on any evidence provided by anyone that I do in fact suck). The fact is I expect everyone to hate everything I do and any kind reactions are a welcome surprise. I thought maybe this was too personal and that it would only make readers uncomfortable but this is supposed to be a personal comic and it felt like cowardice not to post it.
Your comments and points are dead-on and well-received. And thank you so much for the encouragement! It means the world to me!
It’s another very powerful piece. It reminds me a lot of the comic you did of the woman beating herself up.
Stupid own standards. It’s a shame that as the creator of the work, you’ll never be able to view your works with the eyes of your audience. š It is very, very good.
If this was the artist/author who did this then it’s the best work I’ve seen him do. Something coming out from his core rather than just repeating ideas of others.
I can’t tell if he has been hacked and his site attacked or if it was just him.
Whenever I see someone with extraordinary abilites I tend to be envious. Sometimes the persons themselves don’t seem to be content with their abilities. This makes me wonder whether I – not being extraordinary at all – shouldn’t be so content, if it would make be become better.
I’m thankful on the one hand, on the other hand I’m afraid I would achieve more if I were discontent with myself more often.
I guess what I’m trying to say: Thanks for another great comic. It made me think.
Ha oh man, laughing. Not the straight kind — one of the other, crookeder ones.
Sympathetic laughing. See also: head shaking laughing.
Supertruth laughing!
Ahh, you’re all right. Keep fighting the fight (with yourself. it’s all any of us can do), keep making the stuff.
To be completely honest that piece was shit indeed, but you’ve done some of the most brilliant and amazing comics I’ve ever seen.
Good comics and bad comics come from the same place. You need to be prepared to produce bad works of art and to bear the criticism for them if you want to make good stuff. Mistakes are part of the process and you gotta deal with them without making a big deal about it.
A lot of support, Patrick.
Do not pay attention to far-right trolls, their opinion do not matter. The very fact they are able to canonize their “criticism” and to whine about feminist/antiracist/etc folks in the very same message (thank you for the demonstration, ‘Dude’) tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about their level of honesty and intelligence.
You constantly produce very elegant and smart comics, you really try to think out of the box, out of all the cultural traps, out of prejudice and preconceived notion. You are an amazing artist and you were, are and will continue to be a thousand times worth any of these clowns.
Just a follow up. This comic has been resonating with me lately. It comes to mind when I find myself beating myself up for not living up to my too, too high standards.
It’s hilarious that kids on reddit chose “social justice warrior” as a name for who they’re opposed to – people who fight for justice are the enemy? Cool. Y’all didn’t start with a lot of credibility but there goes the rest of it.
Anyway: you made a good comic, you always post good comics, sometimes really great comics, and that has nothing to do with anxiety and depression which are there either way. This is a great illustration of that. You made some well-illustrated points about racism and anxiety that should be obvious, but the internet is packed with ignorant assholes. You know better than anyone how to deal with your own stress, and I won’t presume to tell you how to deal, but honestly, those opinions are worth dog shit. Kind of a pain, but not worth avoiding the outdoors. Your work is deeply appreciated, no doubt it’s good for you, and the things you say are always worth hearing, whatever some aggressive little boys say about them.
Dude. I love your work. You’re not the first person whose creative process includes merciless self-criticism, and nothing I say is going to change that, so I’ll just say thanks. Your comics are well-drawn and range from funny to outrageous to profound, and your genius is the way you manage to combine more than one of those qualities into the same piece.
Please pay MUCH more attention to those who love your comics and much less to those who don’t. A text response from you would light up my day, and yet you dedicate a whole comic like this to the haters. I hope you can gleam as much joy from the positive comments as the negative ones.
It was the wrong audience, really. It’s reddit reacting to a comic based in ideology more fit for tumblr. That said, I do believe that a story with a philosophical core is far more persuasive than a straight essay on morals, and that seems to be the core of the problem.
Don’t let the internet get to you. It’s a big faceless mob that hates everyone.
Also I recommend taking this down, purely on the basis that this is an extremely personal, emotional piece that shows you as a very fragile human. Any comments on this (including this one) are going to hurt.
People didn’t like a comic you made. They didn’t like it because you were pandering to the SJW insane ideology wherein all white people are evil and any form of minority must be given $50,000 and a puppy for their glorious act of being a minority, and anyone who disagrees is satan. Griping about people being “racist” when they clearly fucking aren’t, and turning a perfectly good discussion about the nature of morality into “herp a derp if you disagree with person X then you’re a racist” and jerking off tumblr, then people are going to get pissed off.
If you’re looking for unconditional support, go join the Neo-Nazi tumblrinas. They’ll give it to you. You can draw something that looks like a shitstain, and as long as it continues to promote the idea that being offended is better than being right, and that calling people racist is an acceptable way of meting out social power, people will break their spines bending over backwards to accommodate you.
If you want actual opinions- if you want your audience to give a shit- if you want people to be constructive and for both you and your art to grow– the criticism is a necessity. If someone says something that fucks you over, the solution isn’t to spiral overboard and lose your mind over it– analyse it, either take it on board or tell them to fuck off, and then move on with the lessons learned. Comics like this come dangerously close to the tumblrina ideology of “racists are the devil, you’re all racists and I’m perfect, and if you disagree with me or say something I don’t like, it’s an evil personal attack on me and I’m so hardly done by”
Dude.
You make great comics. If you’re going to keep making them, it needs to be because it would be far harder for you to stop than to keep weathering the storm of furious internet bullshit and art world bullshit and human bullshit. ‘Cause otherwise all the hate will eventually win.
@ imtrappedinabox and Dude:
Thanks for the comments, guys. I’m ok. I started this comic as soon as I finished the previous and before anyone saw it. It’s more about being unable to live up to my own standards than any reaction from readers (although I’ll jump on any evidence provided by anyone that I do in fact suck). The fact is I expect everyone to hate everything I do and any kind reactions are a welcome surprise. I thought maybe this was too personal and that it would only make readers uncomfortable but this is supposed to be a personal comic and it felt like cowardice not to post it.
Your comments and points are dead-on and well-received. And thank you so much for the encouragement! It means the world to me!
That. Was. Brilliant.
It’s another very powerful piece. It reminds me a lot of the comic you did of the woman beating herself up.
Stupid own standards. It’s a shame that as the creator of the work, you’ll never be able to view your works with the eyes of your audience. š It is very, very good.
fuck the critics. just do your thing, not just for yourself, but your admirers, too.
I love this one.
Your name may not be Schulz or Watterson, but clearly you are no hack.
If this was the artist/author who did this then it’s the best work I’ve seen him do. Something coming out from his core rather than just repeating ideas of others.
I can’t tell if he has been hacked and his site attacked or if it was just him.
Whenever I see someone with extraordinary abilites I tend to be envious. Sometimes the persons themselves don’t seem to be content with their abilities. This makes me wonder whether I – not being extraordinary at all – shouldn’t be so content, if it would make be become better.
I’m thankful on the one hand, on the other hand I’m afraid I would achieve more if I were discontent with myself more often.
I guess what I’m trying to say: Thanks for another great comic. It made me think.
i’m not that great at expressing myself but i enjoy your posts a lot and i’d like to see more – unless of course creating them is too much to take
Ha oh man, laughing. Not the straight kind — one of the other, crookeder ones.
Sympathetic laughing. See also: head shaking laughing.
Supertruth laughing!
Ahh, you’re all right. Keep fighting the fight (with yourself. it’s all any of us can do), keep making the stuff.
Man, I love your stuff. Don’t ever compromise.
I enjoyed seeing Pogo in the lineup.
I luv your stuff!!
To be completely honest that piece was shit indeed, but you’ve done some of the most brilliant and amazing comics I’ve ever seen.
Good comics and bad comics come from the same place. You need to be prepared to produce bad works of art and to bear the criticism for them if you want to make good stuff. Mistakes are part of the process and you gotta deal with them without making a big deal about it.
A lot of support, Patrick.
Do not pay attention to far-right trolls, their opinion do not matter. The very fact they are able to canonize their “criticism” and to whine about feminist/antiracist/etc folks in the very same message (thank you for the demonstration, ‘Dude’) tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about their level of honesty and intelligence.
You constantly produce very elegant and smart comics, you really try to think out of the box, out of all the cultural traps, out of prejudice and preconceived notion. You are an amazing artist and you were, are and will continue to be a thousand times worth any of these clowns.
Hi,
Just a follow up. This comic has been resonating with me lately. It comes to mind when I find myself beating myself up for not living up to my too, too high standards.
And it helps to remember to comic.
Thanks again for posting it.
David
PS. Stupid standards.
It’s hilarious that kids on reddit chose “social justice warrior” as a name for who they’re opposed to – people who fight for justice are the enemy? Cool. Y’all didn’t start with a lot of credibility but there goes the rest of it.
Anyway: you made a good comic, you always post good comics, sometimes really great comics, and that has nothing to do with anxiety and depression which are there either way. This is a great illustration of that. You made some well-illustrated points about racism and anxiety that should be obvious, but the internet is packed with ignorant assholes. You know better than anyone how to deal with your own stress, and I won’t presume to tell you how to deal, but honestly, those opinions are worth dog shit. Kind of a pain, but not worth avoiding the outdoors. Your work is deeply appreciated, no doubt it’s good for you, and the things you say are always worth hearing, whatever some aggressive little boys say about them.
Dude. I love your work. You’re not the first person whose creative process includes merciless self-criticism, and nothing I say is going to change that, so I’ll just say thanks. Your comics are well-drawn and range from funny to outrageous to profound, and your genius is the way you manage to combine more than one of those qualities into the same piece.
I’ve read every one.
Please pay MUCH more attention to those who love your comics and much less to those who don’t. A text response from you would light up my day, and yet you dedicate a whole comic like this to the haters. I hope you can gleam as much joy from the positive comments as the negative ones.
I liked it.
Excruciating. Ludicrous. Dirty. Revealing. Perverted. GLORIOUS.
Wow! So much support! Thank you all so much! It means so much to me! I really can’t express how much I appreciate your kind words.
Thank you!!